C6 07 Corvette – Fuel Gauge/Low Fuel/Service Fuel System

I haven’t done much writing about my C6 Corvette, mainly because it has really been a great car (still is) even with the technology glitches.

 

However, as you might have gathered from the title there is an issue that I thought I’d jot down along with some possible causes and some preventive measures.

I recently had the problem with my gas gauge flopping round and kicking off the low fuel warning.  Interesting enough it only happened immediately after filling up.  It is an immediate reaction when I turn the car on.  During this most recent incident the gauge remained flat-lined for what seemed a bit longer then it has in the past. I’m talking 20 miles or more with 3 stops full and shut down.  It was accompanied by the engine light, which remained on after the gauge went back to normal and the low fuel warning stopped.

The Vette ran perfectly  during the event so I’m not too worried , but still you don’t want to have to call the flatbed.

So I dropped a note on my corvette clubs site ACE (Arizona Corvette Enthusiasts) http://www.arizonacorvetteenthusiasts.net and to see what they thought.

Most swear by Chevron gas with its Techron cleaning agent and some were thinking it might be a sending unit and some said it is a common problem with C5 ( the previous generation of Corvettes).

Here are some comments:
—“Use some Seafoam (Autozone, Checker etc.) per directions on the bottle.  Techron works also.”  My NOTE:  Seafoam is tough stuff, you have to be sure to change your fuel filter shortly there after.

—“Same thing would happen to me with Roxxane II (c5).  It would show empty when I filled her up. I would use 2 bottles of Techron and then one bottle at every fill up for the next 4 tanks.   Problem went away for a while. Then I would use one bottle every 2 tanks and that kept the demon away.”

This one was exteremly helpful……”Well, stop putting gas in it, maybe the problem goes away.”

—“It’s a level sender issue for sure.  If Techron doesn’t solve it, you’ll either have to learn to live with it, or replace the faulty sensor.  Do you have any way to check the codes to see which sensor is unhappy?”  ( I don’t so if it acts up again, I’ll have to take it in.)

—“Two possibilities…. sulphur build up on the sending unit or the sending unit going out.  I understand they are a biotch to change.”

—“My C5 had the problem unless I ran Chevron gas in it.  About the second tank of non Chevron the gauge would go crazy.  I would switch back and the problem went away.”

—“This was a common occurrence on the ‘early’ C5’s. It usually happened when high sulphur content fuel was put in. Some of the fixes were switching gas to adding a bottle of Techron every once in a while.  The real ‘fix’ was a reflash at the dealer.   Apparently the sender was a bit too sensitive, so they slowed it down.

I had the issue occasionally on my 99, but when I put a 2002 Z06 operating system into the computer, it went away.

Since you have a C6, I would expect that the issue isn’t a reflash. My guess would be that maybe you got some high sulphur content fuel or your sender is acting up in some way,     maybe a poor or intermittent connection somewhere along the line.

—“You could try a treatment with Techron and see if that ‘cleans’ it up. ”

—“I was using the Techron trick in my C5. I switched to Gumout Regane Fuel System Cleaner. I t seems to help, although my gauge still jumps to E at times when below 1/3 of a tank. Good luck. It sucks to not really know how much fuel is in your tank. Although a Vette is light in comparison to other cars, I just can’t see myself pushing it into the gas station.”

So there you have a round of discussion on the topic.

 

Now the fuel leveling sensor is used because the C6 had two tanks and this keeps the tanks level.  Which is important especially if you are running auto cross.  Here is area a couple of graphics from http://www.corvetteactioncenter.com:

 

 

 

So you can see that it would a chore to replace.  So I’m going to try the Techron and hope  it works.  I’ve been cautioned that I need the  Fuel System Cleaner – not the injector cleaner.  Here’s a pic:

Get the Fuel System Cleaner.

 

I’ve used my first 12 oz can and I’m currently at half a tank.  I’ll fill it up again in a couple of days (Yes..when you normally drive it like you just stole it you tend to have to fill up – now and again..mostly..again!) and I’ll try to capture the event on my trusty Android.

 

Stay tuned (up).  {someone please say they get that}

Thanks for reading

Tim

 

 

 

 

 

Car Production Numbers. They Made How Many? 1901

This is it. The beginning of it all.     What were they making in 1901?

The top producer was the Locomobile car company with a total out put for the year 1,500 cars.

Winton was second with 700 cars.

Oldsmobile (ahh one we’ve heard of!!) was third with 425.

White came in fourth with 193.

Autocar was next with 140.

Knox was sixth with 100.

Rounding out the bottom was Packard and Stanley with 81 and 80 respectively.

 

This is a 1901 Winton Racer..what's the guy in the front doing?

 

 

1901 Autocar

 

The 1901 Autocar has a shaft-drive engine, powered with a water-cooled, two-cylinder, horizontal-opposed engine in the front of the car. The gasoline tank and battery box were under the front seat.

Thanks  reading,

Tim

A Velie!

These images were post on

http://forums.aaca.org/

A great site.  Of a 1925 Velie for sale  asking $14,800.  See below:

1925 Velie

Radiator emblem

Thanks for share.

Tim

Nothing Runs like a Velie!

I was reading the other day and I came across a car manufacturer that I hadn’t heard of prior and yes it was an American car maker.  The maker was Velie.

1911 Velie passenger car

Like some car manufacturers Velie started out as a carriage maker (as in horse and carriage).  The owner was Willard Velie and we received his funding from this mother who was the wife of John Deer.  Yes that John Deer.  It’s not exactly clear if John Deer was is father, but we’ll assume it was so.

Willard created Velie Motor Vehicles Co. in 1908 and produced their first car in 1909.  It was a 4 cylinder and sold 1000 units and were sold though John Deer dealerships.  The 1909 and 1910 models primarily used existing engine but in 1911 build their own.  In that same year the Velie car participated in the Indianapolis 500 and finished 17th out of 46.

1911 Racer

That helped keep  car production was at 3,500 vehicles a year.  By 1914 Velie added a six-cylinder side-valve Continental engine to the mix of power plants. and by 1918 only offered six cylinders. The car became so popular and reliable that a few folks in Louisiana name a town after the car.

In 1918 Velie won the race at Pikes Peak which helped increase production to 9000 a year cars by 1920.

In 1928 they introduced the an 8 cylinder engine  a  Continental straight eight and were a roll so to speak. (Not to mention their little side business for producing air planes.)  However that was not to be, Willard died in late 1928 and Willard Jr. died a few months in 1929 later.  That ended the Velie Motor Vehicle Co.

John Deer company bought the plant and well they sold a few tractors now and then.

Thanks for reading

Tim

Automakers World War II Efforts-American Bantam

I love auto history, and one of the areas I enjoy learning about is what car companies made to help support war efforts.  So this series will be a small snapshot of the vehicles and some surprising other items.  As a note, most of the makers didn’t just volunteer to stop producing cars, although most complied with the restrictions on materials – like not using chrome for the brightwork, which created the very collectible attribute for wartime cars – the blacked-out version.

First up, American Bantam.  “Who?” you might be saying.  Ok fine.   Do these ring a bell:

1938 American Bantam

1939 American Bantam Roadster

 

Nice looking cars, not much on name recognition.

The company started out as the American Austin Car company  In 1930 and in 1934 became associated with the British Austin Car Company and then filed for bankruptcy.  In 1935 it was revived as the American Bantam Car Company.  They are credited with the first jeep prototype.  (So any guesses as two one of their contributions during WWII?).  The company stopped doing business in 1941.

Reach search show 3 main contributions for the American Bantam Company.

First up and one of the most important  military vehicles.

1940 Bantam Jeep

Nothing but functional with a 4 cylinder engine.

1940 Bantam Engine – 4 banger Flat head.

 

As if that wasn’t enough the also produced two trailers for pulling behind the jeep.

1939 Bantam Pumper Trailer for use with the Jeep.

Impressive.

amphibious Trailer

And there you have it.  American Bantam’s extremely important contributions to the World War II effort and tahe beginnings of one of the most versatile military vehicles…the Jeep!!

Thanks for reading.

Tim

ParkingLot Spotlight 1951 GMC 9/24/2011

So you are out at the mall or grabbing some groceries at the store and you are headed back to your car in the parking lot and you catch something out of the corner of your eye.  It’s out of the ordinary, it really shouldn’t be there, especially parked between that 1998 Honda with almost no paint and the huge Cummings Diesel pick up with a bench car seat bungy corded to the tie downs in the bed, but there it is, glowing and out-of-place.

That is what these segments will be about.  Sometime there will be comments from the owner and sometimes I won’t have a chance to chat with them.  There is a fine line between loving cars and stalking. (Standing around while your milk getting warm and your ice cream is leaking out of the hole in the plastic bag, waiting for the owner is on the line.  Hey..it only happened once!!!…Come on now!!!..You’ve done it!!!)

Up this time is a GMC Panel van from about 1951.  Found this one at  a local Fry’s grocery store parking lot.  I got a chance to take a few pics and didn’t get to meet the owner.

Here are some pics.

Looks in pretty good shape

 

 

Huge grill opening

 

In the above pic you can see that the air conditioning is on. (OK..is just a vent but it is pretty cool.)

Needs a little chrome work.

 

These are not small vehicles

 

Those doors open up pretty wide and that bumper is HEAVY DUTY.

Quick peak inside

 

What are you finding in a parking lot?

Drop a note.

Thanks for reading.

Tim

1965 Chevelle – A rare one

Chevy and it’s customer loved the Chevelle, the customers because of the low price and horse power, Chevy because of the sales. Now days a Chevelle is a highly sought after collector car.  Finding a real good one is rare unless you want to play nearly a years salary.

Among those are clusters of the extremely rare.  Within the production of the 1965 Chevelle there is an extremely rare version. That was the year Chevy took its brand new Mark IV 396 engine and hoisted it to the engine bay.  It was the first of its kind (but not the last – the following year the 396 Chevelle became a regular model) with 375 hp and a 4 speed transmission.  This was the special SS model of the Chevelle.

This was Code Z16 and only 201 1965’s were made with engine/transmission and trim, making this one of the rarest of the Chevelles SS.

1965 Chevelle SS Z16

The 396:

The 396 engine

 

I love this combo.

Thanks for reading.

Tim

 

 

SEAT EXEO – Spanish Car

I don’t normally do this but every now and then someone will drop some spam on this blog and I’ll actually read it.  Rarely are these worth while bit I did find this one interesting.

 

The car brand is called SEAT and EXEO is one of its models.

Seat Exeo

The is actually made in Spain at the SEAT factory.  Volkswagen has a hand in the build as well.  The base platform for this 5 seater is the Audi.  Manufacturing started in 2008.

It comes in 4 and 5 door bodies and is considered “a large family sedan”.  It is based on the VW Group B7 platform which is the same platform used for the  Audi A4.

Wide range of power plants for this car from the 1.6 liter I4 to the 2.0 liter 16v that has the  Turbocharged Fuel Stratified Injection set up.

Here is a shot of the 5 door:

5 Door Seat Exeo - mini van? crossover?

 

The interior looks well equipped:

 

Interior

 

I don’t believe these are available in US specs.

What do you think?

Thanks for reading.

Tim

Mustang Upholstery Front Seat Finale

So what I’ve I been doing lately car-wise?

Finishing up the front seats of Mustang and putting them back in the car.  Yes, I know I should have gotten all the new carpet and the heat and sound deadening but  I didn’t.  They are easy enough to remove so not really a big deal.  I did notice while the seats were out just how thin the carpeting actually was, there is nothing between it and the floor pans, I’ve got to get those done…soon…soon.

Here’s some shots of the final production.

Drivers seat

 

Passenger's Seat. This is the one I just finished.

 

 

 

Tim

Car Production Numbers. They Made How Many? 1922

It is 1922 and the car industry is moving right along.  Small start-up car companies pop up here and there in the 1920’s.

Here is how they stacked up for 1922.

Top spot was Ford  producing 1,147,028 cars.

Dodge was a very distant second with 152,653 car rolling off their assembly line.

Chevrolet ran in third place with 138,932 cars made.

And finish up the list were Buick with 123,152; Studebaker with 105,005; Williys-Overland with 95,410; Durant with 55,300 and finally Maxwell/Chalmers 44,811.

Total passenger cars produced were 2,274,185 with 269,991 truck being made.

Rickenbacker was a new upstart beginning production in 1922.

Durant produce a car priced at $319 . Ford reduced prices to $298.

Balloon tires were introduced.

Hey fuel gauges began being installed in dash in 1922.

1922 Durant Star - An attempt to undercut Ford's prices

1922 Rickenbacker 4 Door

I love this one:

1922 Chrysler Panel Truck

Thanks for reading.

Tim